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    Hi Olaf,

    I have a couple of points that I think worked better in earlier live streams.

    1. At some point we had a live stream that prioritize close battles high up in the order over battles lower down.
    2. We also had the focus set to the driver passing, not to the driver that will get passed.
    3. The last lap was earlier used to focus on the driver in lead, and then jump backwards until all have finished.

    I think it would be good if we can get these elements back. Please have a look at it when you have time.

    Br André

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    Concerning #3 , I think this was just interrupted yesterday due to the feature of following off track excursions and such (which was added recently) , there was someone who spun out on that lap so I think that was the reason we didnt see the finish. Its been working on the other races.

    At least this is what I think..

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    3. The last lap was earlier used to focus on the driver in lead, and then jump backwards until all have finished.
    Dag is right. When the top was in the last round, the backmarkers did quite a lot of strange things. A certain Mr Lehmann, for example, made a pit stop...and others also slowed down more than 7km/h because of mistakes. That is the reason.
    Since in this race in particular André and Robert were extremely, closely together, one might have wished that the focus remained on the front runners, but this was simply an awkward and untypical interaction.
    Most of the time (when the top is not so close together) it makes the stream more interesting if there is some drama while the winner is on his last lap - I think.

    1. At some point we had a live stream that prioritize close battles high up in the order over battles lower down.
    The prioritisation of the front riders hasn't changed in about two years. It's definitely working.
    My tip; André: GPLRacer uses the other (savedreplay) version, which has no prioritisation. Have a look at some of their streams. You'll see the focus is much more on the backmarkers.



    2. We also had the focus set to the driver passing, not to the driver that will get passed.
    Yes, I noticed that negatively too.
    Partly there is an explanation for it.
    In old versions, the lapper was automatically always in focus, because he is the driver behind first.
    Since the "Set focus on riders going slower than 7km/h technology" was added, there is a lock time after each focus change. As a result, it now sometimes happens (for example when lapping) that the focus is only set on the lapping scene when the lapping driver has already passed. But then the lapped rider is the one behind. This means that the lapped rider is in focus more often.
    But in some situations I can't explain why the focus is set on the driver in front. But that doesn't happen very often and it is very difficult to find out the problem.

    BR Olaf

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    I'm surprised it didn't catch my engine explode....

    Just watched the replay on the big screen but the wife got bored and I had to pull the plug...

    Pretty work nonetheless.

    Cheers,

    Will

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    3. The last lap was earlier used to focus on the driver in lead, and then jump backwards until all have finished.
    Dag is right. When the top was in the last round, the backmarkers did quite a lot of strange things. A certain Mr Lehmann, for example, made a pit stop...and others also slowed down more than 7km/h because of mistakes. That is the reason.
    Since in this race in particular André and Robert were extremely, closely together, one might have wished that the focus remained on the front runners, but this was simply an awkward and untypical interaction.
    Most of the time (when the top is not so close together) it makes the stream more interesting if there is some drama while the winner is on his last lap - I think.
    I personally would like to see this changed to focus on the driver in lead, and then jump backwards until all have finished.

    2. We also had the focus set to the driver passing, not to the driver that will get passed.
    Yes, I noticed that negatively too.
    Partly there is an explanation for it.
    In old versions, the lapper was automatically always in focus, because he is the driver behind first.
    Since the "Set focus on riders going slower than 7km/h technology" was added, there is a lock time after each focus change. As a result, it now sometimes happens (for example when lapping) that the focus is only set on the lapping scene when the lapping driver has already passed. But then the lapped rider is the one behind. This means that the lapped rider is in focus more often.
    But in some situations I can't explain why the focus is set on the driver in front. But that doesn't happen very often and it is very difficult to find out the problem.
    We have seen this happening more frequently, and I think it would be better if the driver behind had the focus.

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    IVe noticed that with bigger grids it gets more busy. Longer tracks with 12 drivers look really great while shorter tracks with more cars gets real busy.More action so thats logical.

    I know its a trade off but is it worth looking at slowing the director down a little somehow even though it might mean some action might be missed? TV cant catch all that happens live while it happens but they can rewind and show replays , thats worse for us.

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    Well, I actually only found it too hectic for the first few rounds, then it calmed down quite a bit.

    What struck me was that the leader was not visible enough - only when he was lapping and in the last lap, it seems to me.
    What I would see as an improvement is that the distance from which the leader gets the focus is automatically adjusted to the circumstances by the director.
    So far, you can set this manually. But at first it's easy to forget to reset the value when the track characteristics change. Besides, Andrè cannot foresee how many participants there will be or how many drivers will crash early.
    Yesterday I thought of a way to make the value (actually there are two values - one to change back to normal mode) variable. It would then depend on the length of the track and the number of drivers which are currently in the race.


    The change should actually be fairly easy to make, if I don't make a mistake in my thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf Lehmann View Post

    What struck me was that the leader was not visible enough - only when he was lapping and in the last lap, it seems to me.
    What I would see as an improvement is that the distance from which the leader gets the focus is automatically adjusted to the circumstances by the director.
    So far, you can set this manually.
    I forgot to reset these after you recommendations for Dundrod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dag_J View Post
    IVe noticed that with bigger grids it gets more busy. Longer tracks with 12 drivers look really great while shorter tracks with more cars gets real busy.More action so thats logical.

    I know its a trade off but is it worth looking at slowing the director down a little somehow even though it might mean some action might be missed? TV cant catch all that happens live while it happens but they can rewind and show replays , thats worse for us.
    I do support Dag on this. It would be good if we can get a less busy TV production by staying a bit longer with the focus on the current driver. Something like this: Switch only to another driver if xx seconds has past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olaf Lehmann View Post
    Yesterday I thought of a way to make the value (actually there are two values - one to change back to normal mode) variable. It would then depend on the length of the track and the number of drivers which are currently in the race.


    The change should actually be fairly easy to make, if I don't make a mistake in my thinking.
    That would be a nice feature.

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